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My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
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Re: My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
I did not, I repeat: NOT, put that President, Mr Tyler, on there for his treachery and cooperation with the Confederates. I put him on there... because... um...Red wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:15 pmExplain yourself Mr. Vice President.
...well...
... because... he ugly.
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Re: My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
Hey @Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz have you seen this list by Libertarian Ivan Eland?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2461055/posts
1. John Tyler
2. Grover Cleveland
3. Martin Van Buren
4. Rutherford B. Hayes
5. Chester A Arthur
6. Warren G Harding
7. George Washington
8. Jimmy Carter
9. Dwight D Eisenhower
10. Calvin Coolidge
11. Bill Clinton
12. John Quincy Adams
13. Zachary Taylor
14. Millard Fillmore
15. Benjamin Harrison
16. Gerald Ford
17. Andrew Johnson
18. Herbert Hoover
19. U.S. Grant
20. William Howard Taft
21. Theodore Roosevelt
22. John Adams
23. James Buchanan
24. Franklin Pierce
25. James Monroe
26. Thomas Jefferson
27. Andrew Jackson
28. James Madison
29. Abraham Lincoln
30. Richard Nixon
31. FDR
32. LBJ
33. George H.W. Bush
34. Ronald Reagan
35. JFK
36. George W. Bush
37. James K. Polk
38. William McKinley
39. Harry S. Truman
40. Woodrow Wilson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2461055/posts
1. John Tyler
2. Grover Cleveland
3. Martin Van Buren
4. Rutherford B. Hayes
5. Chester A Arthur
6. Warren G Harding
7. George Washington
8. Jimmy Carter
9. Dwight D Eisenhower
10. Calvin Coolidge
11. Bill Clinton
12. John Quincy Adams
13. Zachary Taylor
14. Millard Fillmore
15. Benjamin Harrison
16. Gerald Ford
17. Andrew Johnson
18. Herbert Hoover
19. U.S. Grant
20. William Howard Taft
21. Theodore Roosevelt
22. John Adams
23. James Buchanan
24. Franklin Pierce
25. James Monroe
26. Thomas Jefferson
27. Andrew Jackson
28. James Madison
29. Abraham Lincoln
30. Richard Nixon
31. FDR
32. LBJ
33. George H.W. Bush
34. Ronald Reagan
35. JFK
36. George W. Bush
37. James K. Polk
38. William McKinley
39. Harry S. Truman
40. Woodrow Wilson
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Re: My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
I'd rank some of the Presidents he ranked lowly (e.g. Teddy Roosevelt) highly for the same reasons he ranked them lowly (progressive interventionists). I agree with his viewpoint that Wilson, the KKK darling, should be ranked lowly, but nowhere near as lowly as he is ranked on this list. I would love to understand his reasons for thinking that Reagan wasn't a true conservative and that Carter was an advocate of small government, and also his reasons for ranking JFK so lowly. Also don't understand why he ranks McKinley so lowly due to Spanish-American war, which I have heard McKinley was actually very hesitant to bring America into it. Also don't know why Jefferson is ranked so lowly and completely disagree with his viewpoint that Lincoln mishandled the civil war.Red wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:54 pm Hey @Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz have you seen this list by Libertarian Ivan Eland?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2461055/posts
1. John Tyler
2. Grover Cleveland
3. Martin Van Buren
4. Rutherford B. Hayes
5. Chester A Arthur
6. Warren G Harding
7. George Washington
8. Jimmy Carter
9. Dwight D Eisenhower
10. Calvin Coolidge
11. Bill Clinton
12. John Quincy Adams
13. Zachary Taylor
14. Millard Fillmore
15. Benjamin Harrison
16. Gerald Ford
17. Andrew Johnson
18. Herbert Hoover
19. U.S. Grant
20. William Howard Taft
21. Theodore Roosevelt
22. John Adams
23. James Buchanan
24. Franklin Pierce
25. James Monroe
26. Thomas Jefferson
27. Andrew Jackson
28. James Madison
29. Abraham Lincoln
30. Richard Nixon
31. FDR
32. LBJ
33. George H.W. Bush
34. Ronald Reagan
35. JFK
36. George W. Bush
37. James K. Polk
38. William McKinley
39. Harry S. Truman
40. Woodrow Wilson
Would be interesting to see where Garfield would rank on this list.
ALSO, John Tyler was an uckers sket who betrayed his country to the Confederate scum and should be nowhere near the top spot.
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Re: My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
Also, I'd like to alter my rankings:Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:33 amI'd rank some of the Presidents he ranked lowly (e.g. Teddy Roosevelt) highly for the same reasons he ranked them lowly (progressive interventionists). I agree with his viewpoint that Wilson, the KKK darling, should be ranked lowly, but nowhere near as lowly as he is ranked on this list. I would love to understand his reasons for thinking that Reagan wasn't a true conservative and that Carter was an advocate of small government, and also his reasons for ranking JFK so lowly. Also don't understand why he ranks McKinley so lowly due to Spanish-American war, which I have heard McKinley was actually very hesitant to bring America into it. Also don't know why Jefferson is ranked so lowly and completely disagree with his viewpoint that Lincoln mishandled the civil war.Red wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:54 pm Hey @Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz have you seen this list by Libertarian Ivan Eland?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2461055/posts
1. John Tyler
2. Grover Cleveland
3. Martin Van Buren
4. Rutherford B. Hayes
5. Chester A Arthur
6. Warren G Harding
7. George Washington
8. Jimmy Carter
9. Dwight D Eisenhower
10. Calvin Coolidge
11. Bill Clinton
12. John Quincy Adams
13. Zachary Taylor
14. Millard Fillmore
15. Benjamin Harrison
16. Gerald Ford
17. Andrew Johnson
18. Herbert Hoover
19. U.S. Grant
20. William Howard Taft
21. Theodore Roosevelt
22. John Adams
23. James Buchanan
24. Franklin Pierce
25. James Monroe
26. Thomas Jefferson
27. Andrew Jackson
28. James Madison
29. Abraham Lincoln
30. Richard Nixon
31. FDR
32. LBJ
33. George H.W. Bush
34. Ronald Reagan
35. JFK
36. George W. Bush
37. James K. Polk
38. William McKinley
39. Harry S. Truman
40. Woodrow Wilson
Would be interesting to see where Garfield would rank on this list.
ALSO, John Tyler was an uckers sket who betrayed his country to the Confederate scum and should be nowhere near the top spot.
Flawless
1. James A. Garfield
Awesome
2. Franklin D. Roosevelt
3. Abraham Lincoln
4. Ulysses S. Grant
5. Thomas Jefferson
6. Jimmy Carter
7. Theodore Roosevelt
8. John F. Kennedy
9. James Madison
10. George Washington
11. Barack Obama
Near Awesome
12. John Quincy Adams (An ardent opponent of slavery but also a nutcase who joined the Anti-Masonic Party and thought that the earth was hollow, even launching a tax-payer funded expedition in an attempt to prove it)
13. William McKinley
Above Average
14. James Monroe
15. John Adams
Average
16. Rutherford B. Hayes (Did a lot to expand civil rights but also enjoyed crushing labour unions)
17. Chester A. Arthur
18. William Henry Harrison (Had the potential to be ranked a lot higher if he had only remembered to wear a coat)
19. Zachary Taylor (Opposed the expansion of slavery, but still pro-slavery)
20. Martin Van Buren (Ditto, also continued some of the bad things that his predecessor Jackson did)
Bad but did a few good things
21. Harry S. Truman (Bad: Started the Korean War; Good: Continued FDR's progressive policies, dropped the atomic bombs on Japan)
22. Lyndon B. Johnson (Bad: Expanded America's role in the Vietnam War; Good: Great Society)
23. Bill Clinton (Bad: Repealed Glass-Steagall; Good: Balanced the budget, peaceful relations with the DPRK)
24. Woodrow Wilson (Bad: Brought USA into WW1, loved the KKK; Good: Fairly good economic policies)
25. Herbert Hoover (Bad: A laissez-faire conservative; Good: Nowhere near as bad as Harding and Coolidge and tried to reverse the negative consequences of their actions, also did some good things after being President)
26. Gerald Ford (Bad: A conservative; Good: Too incompetent to have any lasting negative impact)
27. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Bad: Overthrew the democratically elected government of Mohamed Mosaddegh in Iran; Good: Did some good things for civil rights)
28. Richard Nixon (Bad: Overthrew the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende in Chile, Tried to suppress publication of the Pentagon Papers by the New York Times and Washington Post, Watergate, etc.; Good: Established the EPA, More progressive than he is given credit for)
Terrible
29. Grover Cleveland
30. Benjamin Harrison
31. James Buchanan
32. William Howard Taft
33. Millard Fillmore
34. Calvin Coolidge
35. George H. W. Bush
36. George W. Bush
Near Shit
37. Warren G. Harding (Extreme laissez-faire conservative whose administration was rife with corruption, however, he also supported the freeing of Eugene V. Debs who was imprisoned by the Wilson administration for opposing the first world war so this keeps him from falling into the "shit" category)
Shit
38. Ronald Reagan
39. Orange Man
40. John Tyler
41. Andrew Johnson
42. Andrew Jackson
43. Franklin Pierce
Irredeemable
44. James K. Polk
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Re: My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
Myth. Even if Harrison did die of Pneumonia (he probably didn't- Wikipedia even makes this mistake), it wasn't due to his inauguration, since symptoms didn't arise until weeks after.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:16 pm 18. William Henry Harrison (Had the potential to be ranked a lot higher if he had only remembered to wear a coat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7QGw8yGck
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Well you learn something new every day!Red wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:48 pmMyth. Even if Harrison did die of Pneumonia (he probably didn't- Wikipedia even makes this mistake), it wasn't due to his inauguration, since symptoms didn't arise until weeks after.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:16 pm 18. William Henry Harrison (Had the potential to be ranked a lot higher if he had only remembered to wear a coat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7QGw8yGck
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Actually, you learn something old every day. Just because you just learned it, doesn't mean it's new.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:01 pmWell you learn something new every day!Red wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:48 pmMyth. Even if Harrison did die of Pneumonia (he probably didn't- Wikipedia even makes this mistake), it wasn't due to his inauguration, since symptoms didn't arise until weeks after.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:16 pm 18. William Henry Harrison (Had the potential to be ranked a lot higher if he had only remembered to wear a coat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7QGw8yGck
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It's new to me.Red wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:11 pmActually, you learn something old every day. Just because you just learned it, doesn't mean it's new.Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:01 pmWell you learn something new every day!Red wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:48 pm
Myth. Even if Harrison did die of Pneumonia (he probably didn't- Wikipedia even makes this mistake), it wasn't due to his inauguration, since symptoms didn't arise until weeks after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7QGw8yGck
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Re: My Arbitrary Rankings of the Presidents of the United States
So since it's Presidents Day today, I've decided to take the initiative of putting forward an argument for why the United States needs to abolish the Presidency ranking the U.S. Presidents from best to worst:
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. James A. Garfield
5. Walter Mondale
6. John F. Kennedy
7. Ulysses S. Grant
8. Jimmy Carter
9. Thomas Jefferson
10. Barack Obama
11. James Madison
12. George Washington
13. John Quincy Adams
14. John Adams
15. James Monroe
16. William McKinley
17. Rutherford B. Hayes
18. Chester A. Arthur
19. William Henry Harrison
20. Martin Van Buren
21. Benjamin Harrison
22. Zachary Taylor
23. Bill Clinton
24. Lyndon B. Johnson
25. Harry S. Truman
26. Dwight D. Eisenhower
27. Gerald Ford
28. Woodrow Wilson
29. Grover Cleveland
30. James Buchanan
31. Herbert Hoover
32. William Howard Taft
33. Millard Fillmore
34. Calvin Coolidge
35. Richard Nixon
36. George W. Bush
37. Andrew Johnson
38. John Tyler
39. George H. W. Bush
40. Ronald Reagan
41. Andrew Jackson
42. Franklin Pierce
43. Warren G. Harding
44. James K. Polk
45. Donald Trump
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. James A. Garfield
5. Walter Mondale
6. John F. Kennedy
7. Ulysses S. Grant
8. Jimmy Carter
9. Thomas Jefferson
10. Barack Obama
11. James Madison
12. George Washington
13. John Quincy Adams
14. John Adams
15. James Monroe
16. William McKinley
17. Rutherford B. Hayes
18. Chester A. Arthur
19. William Henry Harrison
20. Martin Van Buren
21. Benjamin Harrison
22. Zachary Taylor
23. Bill Clinton
24. Lyndon B. Johnson
25. Harry S. Truman
26. Dwight D. Eisenhower
27. Gerald Ford
28. Woodrow Wilson
29. Grover Cleveland
30. James Buchanan
31. Herbert Hoover
32. William Howard Taft
33. Millard Fillmore
34. Calvin Coolidge
35. Richard Nixon
36. George W. Bush
37. Andrew Johnson
38. John Tyler
39. George H. W. Bush
40. Ronald Reagan
41. Andrew Jackson
42. Franklin Pierce
43. Warren G. Harding
44. James K. Polk
45. Donald Trump