Novel Virtue & Nihilist Arguments for Veganism

Vegan message board for support on vegan related issues and questions.
Topics include philosophy, activism, effective altruism, plant-based nutrition, and diet advice/discussion whether high carb, low carb (eco atkins/vegan keto) or anything in between.
Meat eater vs. Vegan debate welcome, but please keep it within debate topics.
Post Reply
User avatar
NonZeroSum
Master of the Forum
Posts: 1161
Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:30 am
Diet: Vegan
Location: North Wales, UK

Novel Virtue & Nihilist Arguments for Veganism

Post by NonZeroSum »

-

So this would be more or less the formal logic underpinnings of what my main intuitive interest is in animal liberation, as a basis for relating to someone about what their goals and ambitions are in life. Then obviously I could jump back and forth between natural language explanations of these and more universally applicable arguments like 'Name The Trait' for drilling down to what would be the ethical implications for humans if we used the same carnists justifications for how we treat animals. Let me know what you think.

-

1. Virtue Ethics - Respect for Animal Capabilities Argument

P1) If the wonder that we experience in viewing wild animals is not 'how similar to us they are', but their 'real opportunities to do and be what they have reason to value' THEN the fact we grant this right to a basic extent to humans and the fact that non-human animals experience this desire too means we ought extend it to animals.

P2) The wonder that we experience in viewing wild animals is not 'how similar to us they are', but their 'real opportunities to do and be what they have reason to value'

C) Therefore the wonder that we experience in viewing wild animals is not 'how similar to us they are', but their 'real opportunities to do and be what they have reason to value' AND the fact we grant this right to a basic extent to humans and the fact that non-human animals experience this desire too means we ought extend it to animals.

Further reading: Beyond Compassion and Humanity; Justice for Non-human Animals by Martha Nussbaum

-

2. Nihilist Ethics - Property Rights for Animals Argument

P1) If I desire the ability to live a full life on my property because it satisfies a desire I have to meet my basic needs and I'm in favour of guardianship laws to protect this ability for severely mentally disabled people in court who can't defend themselves THEN I should desire non-human animals who also have these needs have a legal right to their wild habitat as property and should enjoy guardianship laws which protects their legal rights in court through appointment of a guardian to represent the case of one or a group of animals unless another reason is specified on pain of living in bad faith.

P2) I desire the ability to live a full life on my property because it satisfies a desire I have to meet my basic needs and I'm in favour of guardianship laws to protect this ability for severely mentally disabled people in court who can't defend themselves.

C) Therefore I desire the ability to live a full life on my property because it satisfies a desire I have to meet my basic needs and I'm in favour of guardianship laws to protect this ability for severely mentally disabled people in court who can't defend themselves AND I should desire non-human animals who also have these needs have a legal right to their wild habitat as property and should enjoy guardianship laws which protects their legal rights in court through appointment of a guardian to represent the case of one or a group of animals unless another reason is specified on pain of living in bad faith.

Further reading: A Theory of Habitat Rights for Wild Animals by John Hadley – Final Chapter

-
Unofficial librarian of vegan and socialist movement media.
PhiloVegan Wiki: https://tinyurl.com/y7jc6kh6
Vegan Video Library: https://tinyurl.com/yb3udm8x
Ishkah YouTube: https://youtube.com/Ishkah
Post Reply