COVID-19 - appropriate government response?

[teo123]

Interesting response! By the way, @Red, what do you think about Christian Science? http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopi ... =17&t=7620

[teo123]

As an anarchist, I think I need to buy into "COVID denialism". Not necessarily the "It's just the flu."-type denialism, but the "Virus gonna virus."-type denialism seems to be necessary for anarchism. Maybe denying massacres is not necessary for anarchism, but "denying" the pandemics is.

[teo123]

By the way, @Red, how do you make your belief that pandemics can be easily contained using lockdowns, social distancing and masks compatible with environmental veganism? If pandemics can be easily contained using lockdowns, social distancing and masks then superbacteria aren't that much of a problem. There is no need for people to go vegan to avoid a pandemic of superbacteria, all we need to have is governments that are willing to crack down in case of a pandemic. Am I missing something?

[teo123]

By the way, @Red, do you have any actual empirical studies that show that cloth masks work to a statistically significant degree in the real world? You know, like the Bengali study found a barely-statistically-significant result for surgical masks? I would be amazed if that were the case.

[FredVegrox]

There were problems rather than really significant benefits to wearing the masks for COViD. And the shots for COVID created problems, and in some cases death, while information on COVID deaths were with exaggerated numbers. Yet people generally are not willing to admit even to themselves that they have been had. There is less freedom for us and government is telling us more of what to do.

[FredVegrox]

Government really does get worse, it actually has to be guarded from that, or to say it another way, with having government the government is what has to be governed.

[FredVegrox]

Why do any people who trusts in their government so much? Can't they see to do things that are right without being parented by government being there? Do you need that?

[FredVegrox]

Government used the COVID issue as rights we have were being taken that we would not get all back, but the viruses are real, they were just not that big threat justifying it, and the shots are a risk, to wellbeing or to life.

[FredVegrox]

And what gets swept under but the deaths of those who had recently had COVID shots, and even were healthy up until then, and they just succumbed? They want us to think the shots are worthwhile? At the very best it could be said that they were experimental, meaning people getting the shots were those experimented on. Anything else behind those sudden deaths would be what is more deliberate and that is really sinister. But I do not trust the state has our own interests as its priority, too much history betrays that.

[FredVegrox]

While facemasks were worn by everyone when it was enforced I did too, at first believing the contagion might be around anywhere I went, though I was not among the first using them. I was more aware later on that they were probably not so useful in effectiveness. Then it was just going along. That is exactly how the government stays in place.