Philosophical Vegan Forum

brimstoneSalad wrote:

noelle wrote: Can you refer us to some peer-reviewed articles to support the claim that non-hydrogenated, saturated vegetable oils are 'unhealthy'?

Are you asking honestly, or are you advocating the conspiracy theory that saturated fat is good for you and cholesterol is a myth?

It kind of sounds like the latter. If you've already made up your mind that the conspiracy theorists are right and fat is the best energy source and carbs are evil, I don't see the point in providing evidence that will be ignored. I don't like to humor conspiracy theorists with debate or argument, because it's not useful.

If you're not advocating the conspiracy theory, and you're serious, then you need to look into the composition of cocoa butter, which is a third Palmitic acid. The other constituents aren't bad, but the Palmitic acid is its undoing from a nutritional standpoint.

Cocoa powder, however, which is what is left when the cocoa butter is extracted (provided it's good quality and not contaminated with heavy metals), is excellent.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/cocoa-g ... olate-bad/

I specifically asked a question because I am open-minded. You cannot rush to judgment about the intentions of others so quickly. Thank you for providing the material you did, but please watch the attitude.

noelle wrote: I specifically asked a question because I am open-minded. You cannot rush to judgment about the intentions of others so quickly. Thank you for providing the material you did, but please watch the attitude.

Hey, you watch the attitude yourself, mr bossy-pants.

Saturated fat is controversial in the same way evolution is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_ ... ontroversy

That is, it's not really controversial at all, and is considered the scientific consensus, but some people don't like the conclusions (particularly those lobbying for animal products).

There are a lot of conspiracy theorists on the topic, and they are becoming very popular today.
See The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

Just as people wanted to be told that smoking was good for them, people like to be told that saturated fat isn't a bad guy -- because they want to eat it.
Cognitive dissonance is strong.

And your replies on this thread: http://theveganatheist.com/forum/viewto ... 9&start=20

Have indicated that you are sympathetic to that mindset, and possibly also share it. The ignorance you have expressed on nutrition led me to reasonable conclusions. Your former GP was probably one of those loons. As I explained elsewhere, GPs rarely know anything about nutrition.