Philosophical Vegan Forum

brimstoneSalad wrote:penis (it's unnecessary for consensual intercourse)

Could you elaborate? I literally can't think of a method of intercourse that is not with something comparable to a penis and something comparable to a vagina. I am a sure there is, I just really can't think of it.

Vegans: Don't worry to much about shocking or offending (unless you are at work and might lose your job). As long as they make intellectual sense, the shocking/offending comments will have much more of an impact and will not likely be forgotten.

miniboes wrote:

brimstoneSalad wrote:penis (it's unnecessary for consensual intercourse)

Could you elaborate? I literally can't think of a method of intercourse that is not with something comparable to a penis and something comparable to a vagina. I am a sure there is, I just really can't think of it.

Most species of birds don't have penises. The female's cloaca slurps up the sperm which just kind of dribbles passively from the male's.

EquALLity wrote: Ha! But I can't. After writing her rant about how I am insulting any and all rape victims ever, she blocked me.
I wrote those last two things so that other people reading those things could see what I was saying.

Well, you could tell her from another account if you wanted. It's rude, but then so is she.

EquALLity wrote: That reminds me of a quote about this-
"Someone f*cked you, and you didn't wanna be f*cked, and you're surprised you lived?"

-TheAmazingAtheist

Yes, a little more rudely put, but the same sentiment.

I don't mind rape victims calling themselves survivors if they find that empowering and it helps them shake the role of victimhood that they think the former title casts them in (while I think it would do more to acknowledge it and leave it in the past rather than fixating on it as a form of identity), although it is also inaccurate and particularly if certain individuals are going to keep playing the victim card and bully everybody else on what they can or can't say, it becomes harder to respect in their particular cases.

EquALLity wrote: I don't know if I would say that to her if I could, though.
I'm just thinking aloud.

Go for it.

You can also call her a hypocrite for judging her rapist as a bad person while eating meat herself.
We all do good AND bad things.

You can also say just like eating meat doesn't make somebody a bad person, neither does being a rapist -- doing one bad thing doesn't make you bad, it depends on the sum of your actions. A rapist might have opened an orphanage and done a lot of good too that balances out the harm he or she has done -- although it's very unlikely that she has ever done anything good in her life to balance out the harm she chooses to do every day for her own selfish pleasure.

And you can even call her a meat apologist. Because that's what she is.

Don't forget to call her what she is- a bully playing the victim card to tell other people what they can and can't say.

She wasn't receptive to politeness and civility, maybe shaking her up will make her think?
Also maybe not.

It's up to you. There are buttons you can push if you choose, and you wouldn't be wrong to do it.

I wonder if just giving her a link to this thread so she can read it would be a good idea?
Would you have a problem with that?
And would it be a good idea?

EquALLity wrote:I wonder if just giving her a link to this thread so she can read it would be a good idea?
Would you have a problem with that?
And would it be a good idea?

You could also just tell her to come and defend her views here.

She'll see your comment saying that anyway, but I could.
Do you think that would put her off from clicking?

EquALLity wrote:She'll see your comment saying that anyway, but I could.
Do you think that would put her off from clicking?

You could send her the "why do you eat meat?" topic, but you gotta decide whether that concerns you.

Well, she'll see your comment, but I guess I could.

What do you think brimstoneSalad?

It's up to you.

Hm. Maybe I'll just respond to her with the links, but I don't know.