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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm

Said what he intended to do and did it

Same with Orange Man

Not really. That wall isn't well underway just yet, and nuclear war is a strong possiblilty if he doesn't get that Nobel Prize

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm

, and was overall beneficial.

In what ways (besides inspiring Thoreau)?

Expanded Murka, and also had good domestic policies such as infrastructure.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm How?

I like to start it with the War of 1812.
War of 1812 -> Battle of New Orleans -> Andrew Jackson becomes war hero -> Jackson runs for president, is robbed of it, forms Democratic party -> Very popular during terms -> After the Whig Party lost influence even though it won the White House, James K. Polk became president -> Conquered more land -> A lot of land was above Missouri Compromise -> Too much land to sustain it half free, half slave -> Whole series of events that attempt to alleviate slavery issue -> Civil War -> 13th Amendment.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:48 pm Also, I've came up with some possible campaign slogans for 2056:

"Death to America"
"We love death"
"MAGA - Make America Go Away"
"Hail Satan"
"We bleed just to know we're alive"
"Death to America and capitalism"
"Juche gang, Juche gang, Juche gang, Juche gang
Juche gang, Juche gang, Juche gang (Juche gang!)"

Let me know what you think.

How about if we run against Trump's son, Make America Great Again?

For Apples. For North Korea.
Red government isn't always a bad thing.
While (political opponent) is Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing, we're Redding up.
A term or two with Red and Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz or most of your money back.
Better Red than Dead.
(Political opponent) slumbers a cucumber.

Red wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 5:05 pm

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:33 pm I'd like to amend my list:
1. Red

Of course.
Where would you place yourself?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:33 pm33. Michael Dukakis

https://ibb.co/nQ8nko

It's funny because some of them aren't actually American Presidents. Those who are are arranged in the correct order though.

I agree with much else. But why is Garfield higher than FDR and Lincoln?

Because the only bad thing that happened in his Presidency was the fact that he got assassinated. If he had served just two terms (let alone FDR's four terms), he would have accomplished greater than they did. In terms of accomplishment, FDR and Lincoln were obviously greatest, but Garfield the best due to consideration of the circumstances. It is hard to accomplish that much when you are dead from assassination.

Red wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 5:10 pm

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm Same with Orange Man

Not really. That wall isn't well underway just yet, and nuclear war is a strong possiblilty if he doesn't get that Nobel Prize

Yeah, that's true. But do you support the things he did and said he would do, such as his Muslim ban?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm In what ways (besides inspiring Thoreau)?

Expanded Murka, and also had good domestic policies such as infrastructure.

Is expanding the America a good thing? Did it not set in place the policies that led to the evil empire we know and the imperialists love today?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 pm How?

I like to start it with the War of 1812.
War of 1812 -> Battle of New Orleans -> Andrew Jackson becomes war hero -> Jackson runs for president, is robbed of it, forms Democratic party -> Very popular during terms -> After the Whig Party lost influence even though it won the White House, James K. Polk became president -> Conquered more land -> A lot of land was above Missouri Compromise -> Too much land to sustain it half free, half slave -> Whole series of events that attempt to alleviate slavery issue -> Civil War -> 13th Amendment.

I can actually remember something like that in regards to the video you sent me about Polk. However, is an indirect accomplishment something that should be credited? In an alternate timeline, where a man (let's call him Boris) kills the infant Adolf Hitler, and Boris is not a time traveler and just thinks that Hitler is a normal baby, should we praise Boris for stopping the holocaust? Even if Boris is just somebody who loves to kill babies and would be happy to enact a holocaust himself if he was intelligent enough to? Likewise, should we praise Polk for indirectly leading up to the abolition of slavery when he was pro-slavery himself?

Red wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 5:05 pm Where would you place yourself?

1. Theodore Roosevelt
2. Thomas Jefferson
3. Al Gore
4. Me
5. The other Vice Presidents who I can't be bothered to arrange because most of them I don't know and the only ones I do know are mostly those who eventually became President
6. Dick Cheney
7. Mike Pence

Red wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:22 pm

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:48 pm Also, I've came up with some possible campaign slogans for 2056:

"Death to America"
"We love death"
"MAGA - Make America Go Away"
"Hail Satan"
"We bleed just to know we're alive"
"Death to America and capitalism"
"Juche gang, Juche gang, Juche gang, Juche gang
Juche gang, Juche gang, Juche gang (Juche gang!)"

Let me know what you think.

How about if we run against Trump's son, Make America Great Again?

For Apples. For North Korea.
Red government isn't always a bad thing.
While (political opponent) is Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing, we're Redding up.
A term or two with Red and Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz or most of your money back.
Better Red than Dead.
(Political opponent) slumbers a cucumber.

I'm torn between "Death to America" and "For Apples. For North Korea.". Both are easy to remember and sum up our platform perfectly.

Red wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 5:10 pm nuclear war is a strong possiblilty if he doesn't get that Nobel Prize

The DPRK seems pretty determined to scrap their nukes.

I think our boys Kim Jong-un and Moon Jae-in should get the Nobel Prize while Trump can go sit in the corner and wear the dunce hat.

The text is barely readable on this. I don't know why the images can't be more than 1000 pixels high.

Great
1. Red
2. James A. Garfield
3. Franklin D. Roosevelt
4. Abraham Lincoln
5. Bernie Sanders
6. Theodore Roosevelt
7. John F. Kennedy
8. Ulysses S. Grant
9. Jimmy Carter
10. Thomas Jefferson
11. James Madison
12. Jill Stein
13. Michelle Obama
14. Barack Obama
15. George Washington

Near Great
16. John Quincy Adams
17. William McKinley

Above Average
18. James Monroe
19. John Adams

Average
20. Benjamin Harrison
21. Chester A. Arthur
22. Rutherford B. Hayes
23. William Henry Harrison
24. Zachary Taylor
25. Martin Van Buren

Below Average
26. Woodrow Wilson
27. Lyndon B. Johnson
28. Harry S. Truman
29. Dwight D. Eisenhower
30. Bill Clinton
31. William Howard Taft
32. Gerald Ford
33. Gary Johnson

Failure
34. Dennis Prager
35. Richard Nixon
36. James Buchanan
37. Grover Cleveland
38. Herbert Hoover
39. Andrew Johnson
40. Millard Fillmore
41. Calvin Coolidge
42. George H. W. Bush
43. George W. Bush
44. Andrew Jackson
35. Warren G. Harding
46. Ronald Reagan
47. Orange Man
48. Mike Pence
49. John Tyler
50. Franklin Pierce
51. James K. Polk
52. Richard Spencer

Red wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:35 pm Also, this isn't taking into account the things the presidents did out of office. If it did, Herbert Hoover would be within the top 5, and John Tyler would be within the bottom 5.

Um... well... FUCK!