Philosophical Vegan Forum

I see, very well then. I salute you sir. Perhaps I was mistaken in the meaning of the fallacy after all.

Thank you for not calling me an idiot again.

Shadow Fox wrote:I see, very well then. I salute you sir. Perhaps I was mistaken in the meaning of the fallacy after all.

Far be it from me to let you save face, there is no 'perhaps' in the matter.

You weren't just mistaken in the meaning of the fallacy in question, you were mistaken in what fallacies mean in general, and you failed to understand even what the fundamental concept in logic - validity - means.

When you understand the extreme magnitude of how profoundly and fundamentally wrong you were about everything you said, and note your insistence on your rightness despite that ignorance, you will understand why I called you an idiot.

Shadow Fox wrote:Thank you for not calling me an idiot again.

I was actually addressing PrincessPeach, and explaining it to her, because she asked nicely.

I called you an idiot not merely because you were ignorant -- ignorance is no crime. An idiot expresses a special combination of ignorance AND arrogance which is intolerable, making them all but immune to correction.

Stay humble, and you won't be called an idiot again, even if you're mistaken about something.


Do you now understand why my calling you an Idiot was not an ad hominem fallacy?

If you read my original post again, you will find that I had already explained what the "fallacy fallacy" was, and why you were mistaken.
The discussion was already over before it had begun.

It was at the prompting of your insistence that I called you an idiot, which had nothing to do with my discrediting your argument (which you did a good enough job of yourself by not understanding fundamental concepts in logic).


Hopefully now that you know how you were being an idiot, you can avoid being an idiot in the future.

Thanks brimstone you made that easy for me to understand...!

PrincessPeach wrote:Thanks brimstone you made that easy for me to understand...!

Glad to help!

One more entertaining link, although I am not sure if someone has posted this one before. Sorry if this is the case

https://bookofbadarguments.com/?view=flipbook

Is there such a fallacy as association fallacy?
It would basically state that just because something has been a part of A, which is now looked down upon, B must be just as evil as A for advocating for it. For example, the Neo-Nazi party has a notable favorability towards veganism among their ranks, therefore modern vegans are racist white supremacists.

Cirion Spellbinder wrote:Is there such a fallacy as association fallacy?
It would basically state that just because something has been a part of A, which is now looked down upon, B must be just as evil as A for advocating for it. For example, the Neo-Nazi party has a notable favorability towards veganism among their ranks, therefore modern vegans are racist white supremacists.

Yes, it is called the "Guilt by association" fallacy. Here's a link to a site that explains it.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

One example from this site is, "Hitler was in favor of euthanasia, therefore euthanasia is wrong." I hope that I helped.

Okay test reply

Aniket123456 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:40 am Okay test reply

What are you testing?

Neptual wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2014 8:50 pm In addition to my previous post here is a poster (downloadable by link provided) that displays all of the most common fallacies used
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/poster

I'm wondering, maybe you or someone you know have a version of this poster in French? I'd love to hang something with this info at my place, but I live in France. I'd like it to be subject of discussion with my French friends when they hang around, but they are not all english speakers.