Philosophical Vegan Forum

RedAppleGP wrote:

Insert name here wrote:We'll just have to up the ante for dizzy, everyone will crack eventually.

Who cares? That guy lives in his parent's basement and consists on Cheez Doodles and rejection.

Oh that is a lie, I live with my parents but I am 10 so STFU and I found a picture of you: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... e=56D0C62F

Ok, you just showed us an accurate representation of the Amazing atheist, what's your point dizzy?

I find it fascinating that 'socialism' is a bad word in the USA, although the trick that some republicans try to pull off calling someone a socialist like it's a bad thing doesn't seem to work that well anymore. From my perspective, Bernie Sanders seems like the only reasonable candidate in this election.

Volenta wrote:From my perspective, Bernie Sanders seems like the only reasonable candidate in this election.

I've been thinking about what I think are the most important problems of the world, and I cannot reason myself out of putting climate change at #1, even compared to animal agriculture (obviously they are not seperate issues). I think, therefore, that Sanders is the only candidate that has his priorities straight. It does not seem to me like Clinton or O'Malley would be terrible presidents, but I feel the Bern.

Which countries do Americans even associate socialism with? Do they think Russia and China are the prime examples of socialism, rather than the nordic countries and the rest of Europe (which is also socialist compared to the US)?

miniboes wrote:I've been thinking about what I think are the most important problems of the world, and I cannot reason myself out of putting climate change at #1, even compared to animal agriculture (obviously they are not seperate issues).

You might be right about putting climate change at number one, and it continues to be a more pressing issue each year. There is not much that gets done about it—in fact, emissions are still going up. It is intertwined with animal agriculture indeed, but lets also not delude ourselves that if things get better regarding animal agriculture, climate change is thereby fixed. The opposite is probably true, since intensive farming contributes less to climate change then animal with higher welfare levels. If it would happen at all, by the time industrialized countries are majority vegan, climate change has gone extremely bad.

Bernie Sanders is most likely to do economical reforms which are both beneficial for the poor, as well as the climate. I don't think it's an issue that can be easily fixed though, since it's going straight against the current economic consensus of neoliberalism in which market freedom and deregulation is dominating.

miniboes wrote:I think, therefore, that Sanders is the only candidate that has his priorities straight. It does not seem to me like Clinton or O'Malley would be terrible presidents, but I feel the Bern.

He certainly got his priorities straight given the current state of the USA.

I have a lot of trouble with Clinton to be honest. She is definitely not as progressive as she wants to look (I would consider her conservative/right-wing in the European political spectrum), which becomes patently clear when you take a look at the differences with Sanders.

miniboes wrote:Which countries do Americans even associate socialism with? Do they think Russia and China are the prime examples of socialism, rather than the nordic countries and the rest of Europe (which is also socialist compared to the US)?

I think it is mostly a remnant from the cold war; it's associated with authoritarian communistic regimes like China and the Soviet Union.

miniboes wrote:Which countries do Americans even associate socialism with? Do they think Russia and China are the prime examples of socialism, rather than the nordic countries and the rest of Europe (which is also socialist compared to the US)?

I can say, at least in the area of the U.S that I live in, most Americans think socialism is just giving welfare checks out to the poor. In fact, I would say that this idea is pervasive across the entire southern half of the U.S. We, including myself, have been taught to associate socialism with communism, which of course is inherently "Bad" Which is why socialism is such a dirty word in the U.S.

Okay guys, if you aren't convinced yet:
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-animal-welfare/

Insert name here wrote:Ok, you just showed us an accurate representation of the Amazing atheist, what's your point dizzy?

You are an Athiest, that is true, BUT YOU ARE NOT AMAZING! You are white and God hates you.

This website is meant to make fun of a lot of things, but this article is much different than the other articles on the website.

http://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

I just think that it's hilarious that all of the republicans have ridiculous articles that are not true in the slightest due to the fact that this is a parody website of Wikipedia, but the article on Bernie Sanders looks mostly normal.

Bernie Sanders is currently suing the DNC for preventing his campaign from accessing its own information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAcDmMOYnI