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EquALLity wrote:Bernie Sanders is currently suing the DNC for preventing his campaign from accessing its own information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAcDmMOYnI

Apparently they gave him access this morning.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bern ... cebook.com

^Great news!

I can't wait for the debate tonight.

Good news: Bernie is gaining ground.
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20 ... 549/0/1011

Also, Bernie's campaign is calling for a full investigation of the DNC, because it turns out that a Sanders staffer who (against the rules) viewed Clinton campaign information was actually recommended by the DNC and the company that caused the mishap that resulted in the ability of that staffer to view Clinton's information.
The DNC is pretty clearly biased in favor of Hillary Clinton, seeing as it scheduled so few debates, and scheduled those debates on nights that many people would be discouraged to view them on. The Clinton campaign also gets donations (bribes) from the company that caused the mishap...
More info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB9ziPzU3X0

Bad news: A recent poll shows that Clinton and Trump would basically tie in a general election. O_O

Bernie Sanders is now winning again in New Hampshire (and by thirteen points in one poll)!
And he's only three points behind Hillary in Iowa!

He might actually win the nomination... Think of how amazing that would be... O_O!

Maybe some people should donate... hm...
I'm just going to leave this here... https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/p ... em160110-c

;D

What if Donald Trump wins

^It'd be catastrophic, obviously.
Imagine Donald Trump being President... Jesus Christ...
He thinks that China made up climate change to harm the US economy.
He sued a comedian over a joke about him being an orange-haired orangutan.
He got into a twitter war with a guy from Modern Family.
I mean... Just... It would destroy the country's reputation (which isn't so great currently), and destroy the actual country, and possibly destroy other countries.
His foreign policy is insane. He has basically said he'll learn about foreign policy once he becomes elected, and then there's the Putin thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovkCqtj6sgw

How would you react?

EquALLity wrote:I'm just going to leave this here... https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/p ... em160110-c

It's a shame only people from the US can contribute :/
Yes, it mainly concerns the US, and there's a point to be made that other nations shouldn't have a say about the US president.
But there's also a point to be made that the US greatly affects global economy, and its policies affect the rest of the world too. So, I think they should give non-US residents the ability to donate if they want (if that was the case, I assure you Bernie Sanders would be in a much better position financially).
And besides, there are always ways around it - like sending money to someone trustworthy in the US, that would then donate those money.

thebestofenergy wrote:

EquALLity wrote:I'm just going to leave this here... https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/p ... em160110-c

It's a shame only people from the US can contribute :/
Yes, it mainly concerns the US, and there's a point to be made that other nations shouldn't have a say about the US president.
But there's also a point to be made that the US greatly affects global economy, and its policies affect the rest of the world too. So, I think they should give non-US residents the ability to donate if they want (if that was the case, I assure you Bernie Sanders would be in a much better position financially).
And besides, there are always ways around it - like sending money to someone trustworthy in the US, that would then donate those money.

Yeah, it is. For some reason, multinational corporations can 'donate' money, but if an actual person from one of those countries the corporation has goods in donates... That's illegal?

I wonder if profits from his store go to funding his campaign. That might be another way to get around it...
You couldn't give the money to someone to give it, though: "This contribution is made from my own funds, and funds are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution."

Well, thanks for trying!

I wouldn't spend a lot of money on politics, since it's kind of a gamble and inefficient, and it's probably better to just spend time arguing/promoting the candidate and encouraging people to vote.

Converting time to money, then donating, then them converting it back into time, and trying to use it to advertise isn't anywhere nearly as efficient as direct word of mouth to friends, family, and acquaintances.

brimstoneSalad wrote:Converting time to money, then donating, then them converting it back into time, and trying to use it to advertise isn't anywhere nearly as efficient as direct word of mouth to friends, family, and acquaintances.

Yes, I definitely agree.
However, I can't really convince any acquaintances to vote (non-US residents); I wanted to do my part, even if really little.
It's quite frustrating knowing there's nothing you can do - except inefficiently having arguments on Youtube to futilely trying to make Trump supporters change their minds, I guess... ugh.