COVID-19 - appropriate government response?

[teo123]

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Oh, and people here insist that I am one who is breaking the rules!

[Not The Real JReg]

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[teo123]

@Red, I want an honest answer. You say true intellectuals realize when they don't know enough, right? If so, how come Leibniz appears not to have realized that, when he came up with his theory of everything, called Monadology? Or when Boscovich came up with his theory of everything, and similarly got almost everything wrong? Are you telling me Boscovich and Leibniz weren't true intellectuals?

[Red]

Did you guys hear Trump cut WHO funding?

He's doing a whole lot of awful things, but on the bright side, his historical reputation will be awful. This whole Corona thing is yet another shit stain on his already atrocious record.

[teo123]

Did you guys hear Trump cut WHO funding?

He's doing a whole lot of awful things, but on the bright side, his historical reputation will be awful. This whole Corona thing is yet another shit stain on his already atrocious record.

I generally don't have a great opinion of WHO or the Chinese government, but I think the accusations made against them related to COVID are unreasonable. I've seen no convincing evidence there was a cover-up in the first place (What's the name of the scientist who was put in jail for warning about it? Do you have convincing evidence that's the reason he was put in jail?), yet alone that it played a significant role. Furthermore, why would anybody want to kill tens of thousands of people (maybe more, maybe much more) and destroy the global economy that way?
The idea that COVID was genetically engineered is just over-the-top. Why would anybody do that? And who would do that? If it's been done in the USA, then it's hard to explain why would whoever did that want to destroy the US economy. If it's been done in China, again, the same problem. And how do you keep the knowledge needed to do that secret? Why do you keep it secret in the first place, if you are funded by the government and you can't get in jail because of doing that? Why bother to make it look like it came from bats?

[Not The Real JReg]

Did you guys hear Trump cut WHO funding?

He's doing a whole lot of awful things, but on the bright side, his historical reputation will be awful. This whole Corona thing is yet another shit stain on his already atrocious record.

I generally don't have a great opinion of WHO or the Chinese government, but I think the accusations made against them related to COVID are unreasonable. I've seen no convincing evidence there was a cover-up in the first place (What's the name of the scientist who was put in jail for warning about it? Do you have convincing evidence that's the reason he was put in jail?), yet alone that it played a significant role. Furthermore, why would anybody want to kill tens of thousands of people (maybe more, maybe much more) and destroy the global economy that way?
The idea that COVID was genetically engineered is just over-the-top. Why would anybody do that? And who would do that? If it's been done in the USA, then it's hard to explain why would whoever did that want to destroy the US economy. If it's been done in China, again, the same problem. And how do you keep the knowledge needed to do that secret? Why do you keep it secret in the first place, if you are funded by the government and you can't get in jail because of doing that? Why bother to make it look like it came from bats?

He's blocked you lol

[teo123]

So, guys, what do you think about the claim that the deaths related to COVID are systematically overestimated because deaths from pneumonia today are often attributed to COVID instead?
https://i.stack.imgur.com/3ehhg.png

Also, @Red, I am interested, how do you teach in schools what caused World War I if you don't mention Croatia? In Croatia, we are taught the Croatian independence movement caused World War I by Gavrilo Princip, a member of the organization called Crna Ruka, related to the Croatian independence movement, assassinated Franz Ferdinand (who, according to Crna Ruka, was responsible for the oppression of Croatians) in Sarajevo, and Bosnian government refused to let the Hungarian government investigate the assassination, leading to Austria and Hungary attacking Bosnia and caused a "chain reaction" leading to World War I.

[Red]

Also, @Red, I am interested, how do you teach in schools what caused World War I if you don't mention Croatia? In Croatia, we are taught the Croatian independence movement caused World War I by Gavrilo Princip, a member of the organization called Crna Ruka, related to the Croatian independence movement, assassinated Franz Ferdinand (who, according to Crna Ruka, was responsible for the oppression of Croatians) in Sarajevo, and Bosnian government refused to let the Hungarian government investigate the assassination, leading to Austria and Hungary attacking Bosnia and caused a "chain reaction" leading to World War I.

Apparently that part isn't important enough to be worth a mention. I'm sure one of the reasons they leave it out is that if they say 'Croatia' everyone in the classroom would ask what a Croatia is. It's barely even mentioned in most of the Wikipedia articles about it. If it really were that important, it'd be a focal point, not a side one.

I can see why they emphasize it in Croatian classrooms, given how little screentime it gets in the world theater, so they'll highlight anything they can.

C'mon Teo, I've already told you, national identity is meaningless. It says nothing about you whether you were born in the US or Croatia. Why are you so insecure about this?

[Not The Real JReg]

Also, @Red, I am interested, how do you teach in schools what caused World War I if you don't mention Croatia? In Croatia, we are taught the Croatian independence movement caused World War I by Gavrilo Princip, a member of the organization called Crna Ruka, related to the Croatian independence movement, assassinated Franz Ferdinand (who, according to Crna Ruka, was responsible for the oppression of Croatians) in Sarajevo, and Bosnian government refused to let the Hungarian government investigate the assassination, leading to Austria and Hungary attacking Bosnia and caused a "chain reaction" leading to World War I.

M8 I already told you he's blocked you.

[teo123]

Also, @Red, I am interested, how do you teach in schools what caused World War I if you don't mention Croatia? In Croatia, we are taught the Croatian independence movement caused World War I by Gavrilo Princip, a member of the organization called Crna Ruka, related to the Croatian independence movement, assassinated Franz Ferdinand (who, according to Crna Ruka, was responsible for the oppression of Croatians) in Sarajevo, and Bosnian government refused to let the Hungarian government investigate the assassination, leading to Austria and Hungary attacking Bosnia and caused a "chain reaction" leading to World War I.

Apparently that part isn't important enough to be worth a mention. I'm sure one of the reasons they leave it out is that if they say 'Croatia' everyone in the classroom would ask what a Croatia is. It's barely even mentioned in most of the Wikipedia articles about it. If it really were that important, it'd be a focal point, not a side one.

I can see why they emphasize it in Croatian classrooms, given how little screentime it gets in the world theater, so they'll highlight anything they can.

C'mon Teo, I've already told you, national identity is meaningless. It says nothing about you whether you were born in the US or Croatia. Why are you so insecure about this?

But what ARE you then taught as the cause of WW1? PragerU agrees it was caused by that assassination of Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, though they call Gavrilo Princip "a Serbian nationalist" for some reason, rather than a member of the Croatian independence movement. I don't think that makes any sense, since Serbia, as far as I know, was independent in the early 20th century, while Croatia had been conquered by Hungary.