Philosophical Vegan Forum

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1. When did you go vegan? (Fun fact)

2. How would you rank these reasons for being vegan? (From your #1 top reason, to second, and third; please note if any don't apply for you at all, or if two or more are exactly tied)

Personal health (or by example, for the health of your family/friends)
Animal ethics (concern for non-human animal suffering or interests)
Societal/environmental reasons (effect on humans, and existential threats)

3. Do you condone violent animal rights or vegan activism?

4. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal? E.g. theft/property damage.

5. Do you condone controversial but legal acts like shaming (or harassment like hate mail) as activism?

6. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, do you consider "freegan" meat (from road kill, or garbage), or future in-vitro meat grown from cell cultures without animal products ("clean meat") as morally acceptable?

7. Do you take or recommend others take supplemental B-12?

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1. When did you go vegan?
2016

2. How would you rank these reasons for being vegan?
Societal/environmental reasons & Animal ethics (concern for non-human animal suffering or interests) (tie)

3. Do you condone violent animal rights or vegan activism?
No.

4. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal?
I don't condone property damage, I do condone actions done in accordance with Good Samaritan laws and Civil Trespass (in a criminal case these could be prosecuted as trespass and theft, it would be up to the defence to demonstrate sufficient evidence to excuse/explain their actions)

5. Do you condone controversial but legal acts like shaming (or harassment like hate mail) as activism?
No.

6. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, do you consider "freegan" meat (from road kill, or garbage), or future in-vitro meat grown from cell cultures without animal products ("clean meat") as morally acceptable?
Yes.

7. Do you take or recommend others take supplemental B-12?
Yes.

ModVegan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:47 am 1. When did you go vegan?
2016

It's so cool that you were motivated to put all these video resources together in such a short time on your vegan journey.

ModVegan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:47 am4. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal?
I don't condone property damage, I do condone actions done in accordance with Good Samaritan laws and Civil Trespass (in a criminal case these could be prosecuted as trespass and theft, it would be up to the defence to demonstrate sufficient evidence to excuse/explain their actions)

We talked about this a bit already, but I really agree that well targeted and planned civil disobedience should play a role. I've said I worry about the coherency of narratives, such as the direct action achieving the most possible, and then accepting responsibility. For example shutting down a coal plant but then coming down when the owners get a court injunction out, similar to squatting being a civil offense that raises awareness of misuse of some empty buildings. So saving as many animals in an instance as possible, accepting responsibility, and not saying you'll do it again, passing the baton on to someone else, unless you do just want to bring law enforcement down on the community unnecessarily for the sake of spectacle and martyrdom.

In 2007, six Greenpeace environmental activists climbed a 639-foot chimney at Kingsnorth coal power plant in England, intending to shut down the plant by occupying the chimney. They planned to write the words, "Gordon, bin it" on the chimney to pressure Prime Minister Gordon Brown to stop the building of new coal power plants, but after writing "Gordon," the six activists were served with an injunction and came down from the chimney. The "Kingsnorth Six," as they are called, were criminally charged for property damage; it cost 35,000 euros (equal to US $53,000 at the time) to remove the graffiti. Jurors in the case found the Kingsnorth Six "not guilty," accepting the defense arguments that the six activists had a "lawful excuse" to damage property at the Kingsnorth power station to prevent even greater damage caused by global warming (McCarthy 2008). The Criminal Damage Act of 1971 allows individuals to damage property to prevent even greater damage—such as breaking down the door of a burning house to put out a fire. James Hansen, a top NASA climate scientist, testified for the defense, and told the jury that carbon dioxide emissions from the Kingsnorth power plant would contribute to climate change. The Kingsnorth Six Greenpeace activists were acquitted of criminal charges of property damage as jurors agreed that the defendants had a "lawful excuse" for their actions.

- Understanding Social Problems By Linda A. Mooney, David Knox, Caroline Schacht

1. When did you go vegan?

2016

2. How would you rank these reasons for being vegan?

1. Animal Ethics
2. Societal/ environmental concern
3.Perosnal Health (Because screw me?)

3. Do you condone violent animal rights or vegan activism?

No, violence wouldn't change carnists' minds.

4. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal? E.g. theft/property damage.

Should I answer this? lol

5. Do you condone controversial but legal acts like shaming (or harassment like hate mail) as activism?

No.

6. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, do you consider "freegan" meat (from road kill, or garbage), or future in-vitro meat grown from cell cultures without animal products ("clean meat") as morally acceptable?

Yes, a carcass/ collection of cells cannot be harmed. Thus I am not morally concerned with lab grown meat/ road kill.

7. Do you take or recommend others take supplemental B-12?

YES.


Link to my YT channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAVgdLqp7pCpJoSl5DMbzjw?view_as=subscriber

I created an excel document people can comment on without having to sign up to the forum or the wiki, please share it out liberally.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10k9KkhJ7Ndd5A22wLky2wNQL9MY-2a-KwFbjgYDdPoM/edit?usp=sharing

In the top right hand corner is a comment function.

Asking vegan youtube content creators to answer the survey questions, and link your channel name/url.

Anyone can suggest names to add to the list or answers to the categories they have evidence for.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/theo_slade/status/952023607101845504
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/7q2bd0/mammoth_vegan_youtubers_list_fully_sortable/

1. When did you go vegan? (Fun fact)
2009.

2. How would you rank these reasons for being vegan? (From your #1 top reason, to second, and third; please note if any don't apply for you at all, or if two or more are exactly tied)
Animal ethics and societal/environmental reasons (tied) and only sometimes, personal health (because I don't love me enough?)

3. Do you condone violent animal rights or vegan activism?
No.

4. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal? E.g. theft/property damage.
I encourage and organize workshops with a special focus on targeted and strategic non-violent direct action (NVDA) activism in accordance with local and international laws.

5. Do you condone controversial but legal acts like shaming (or harassment like hate mail) as activism?
No.

6. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, do you consider "freegan" meat (from road kill, or garbage), or future in-vitro meat grown from cell cultures without animal products ("clean meat") as morally acceptable?
Yes to freeganism, no to in-vitro meat but do not violently oppose it as an alternative to animal slaughter.

7. Do you take or recommend others take supplemental B-12?
Yes.

YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5s26P ... MuPg8Tzd0g

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Vegan YouTubers
http://philosophicalvegan.com/wiki/index.php/Vegan_YouTubers

Date Vegan / Health, Ethics or Envo / Violent Activsm / Non-violent illegal / (Legal) Harass / Freegan or invitro moral? / rec. B-12?

Unnatural Vegan. _ 1. 2013? ____ 2. Ethical ________________ 3. No ..... 4. No ......... 5. No ....... 6. Yes .... 7. Yes ...
Gary Yourofsky ___ 1. ? ............ 2. ? _____________________ 3. Yes ... 4. Yes ........ 5. Yes ...... 6. ? ....... 7. ? ....
Gary Francione ___ 1. ? ............ 2. ? _____________________ 3. ? ....... 4. ? ........... 5. ? ......... 6..No ..... 7. ? ....
Mexie ___________ 1. ? ............ 2. ? _____________________ 3. ? ....... 4. Yes ........ 5. ? ......... 6. ? ....... 7. ? ..
a-bas-le-ciel ______ 1. ? ........... 2. Ethical ________________ 3. No ..... 4. No ........ 5..No ....... 6..No ..... 7. Yes ...
Mod Vegan ________ 1. 2016 ....... 2. Socio-enviro/ethics _____ 3. No. .... 4. Maybe.... 5. No. ...... 6. Yes. .... 7. Yes.
Reg Flowers _______ 1. ? ............ 2. ? _____________________ 3. No ..... 4. No ......... 5..No ....... 6. ? ....... 7. ? ....
Lay Vegan _________1. 2016 ....... 2. Ethics > Enviro > Health __ 3. No ...... 4. ? ........... 5. No ....... 6. Yes ..... 7. YES
Activist Journeys ___ 1. 2007 ....... 2. Ethics/Socio-enviro ______ 3. Maybe .. 4. Yes ........ 5. No ....... 6. Yes ..... 7. Yes
Ana Jonessy _______ 1. 2009 ....... 2. Ethics/Socio-enviro ______ 3. No. ...... 4. Maybe ..... 5. No ....... 6. Yes & No . 7. Yes

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1a. Which common political ideology or family of ideologies do you most identify with (Socialist, Social Democrat, Liberal, Centrist, Conservative, etc.)?

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b. Where do you fall roughly on the political compass and if you did a test or multiple tests can you say what you scored and which website scoring system you used? For example:

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4. When did you go vegan? (Fun fact)

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5. How would you rank these reasons for being vegan? (From your #1 top reason, to second, and third; please note if any don't apply for you at all, or if two or more are exactly tied)

- Personal health (or by example, for the health of your family/friends)

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- Animal ethics (concern for non-human animal suffering or interests)

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- Societal/environmental reasons (effect on humans, and existential threats)

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6. Do you condone violent animal rights or vegan activism?

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7. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal? E.g. theft/property damage.

Answer:

8. Do you condone controversial but legal acts like shaming (or harassment like hate mail) as activism?

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9. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, do you consider "freegan" animal products (products that would otherwise have gone in the garbage) as morally acceptable?

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10. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, would you consider future in-vitro meat grown from cell cultures ("clean meat") where no animal was harmed/exploited as morally acceptable?

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11. Do you take or recommend others take supplemental B-12?

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