Philosophical Vegan Forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0VrZPBskpg

I just stumbled across this talk and thought it was pretty great. Thoughts?

That was really great. Thanks for sharing. I must be honest, when you first mentioned Carnism, my first reaction was negative, as I think it was Prof. Francione who coloured my opinion of her (in a negative light). After watching the video, I was pleasantly surprised. Very well presented.

I think this presentation will hit a note with those who assume that veganism is some type of hippie subculture not to be taken seriously. She comes across as very professional.

TheVeganAtheist wrote:I must be honest, when you first mentioned Carnism, my first reaction was negative, as I think it was Prof. Francione who coloured my opinion of her (in a negative light).

Can you remember what his problem was with the word 'carnism'? I can't see anything that's really wrong with it.

Jebus wrote:I think this presentation will hit a note with those who assume that veganism is some type of hippie subculture not to be taken seriously. She comes across as very professional.

I agree, we need more of that.

Great video!

TheVeganAtheist wrote:when you first mentioned Carnism, my first reaction was negative, as I think it was Prof. Francione who coloured my opinion of her (in a negative light).

It's a pretty safe bet that any vegan Francione doesn't like is spreading the right message.

Veganism needs more rational advocates like this.

Jebus wrote:I think this presentation will hit a note with those who assume that veganism is some type of hippie subculture not to be taken seriously. She comes across as very professional.

I couldn't help but seeing her in contrast with Gary Yourofsky. Where Yourofsky presents emotionally and is very radical at times, Melanie Joy presents the arguments in a very calm, rational and non-offensive way, all with a friendly smile. This is the kind of person that I want advocating veganism, not a Yourofsky or Francione.

Volenta wrote:

TheVeganAtheist wrote:I must be honest, when you first mentioned Carnism, my first reaction was negative, as I think it was Prof. Francione who coloured my opinion of her (in a negative light).

Can you remember what his problem was with the word 'carnism'? I can't see anything that's really wrong with it.

Jebus wrote:I think this presentation will hit a note with those who assume that veganism is some type of hippie subculture not to be taken seriously. She comes across as very professional.

I agree, we need more of that.

I honestly dont remember at this point. It was a long time ago.

miniboes wrote:

Jebus wrote:I think this presentation will hit a note with those who assume that veganism is some type of hippie subculture not to be taken seriously. She comes across as very professional.

I couldn't help but seeing her in contrast with Gary Yourofsky. Where Yourofsky presents emotionally and is very radical at times, Melanie Joy presents the arguments in a very calm, rational and non-offensive way, all with a friendly smile. This is the kind of person that I want advocating veganism, not a Yourofsky or Francione.

Funny, because my wife's reaction was opposite. She much preferred Yourofsky's passionate (emotionally delivered) presentation over Melanie Joy's. I agree with you. Her style is definitely more appealing to me.

Pretty good presentation! !!1

TheVeganAtheist wrote: Funny, because my wife's reaction was opposite. She much preferred Yourofsky's passionate (emotionally delivered) presentation over Melanie Joy's. I agree with you. Her style is definitely more appealing to me.

Just goes to show, different methods to appeal to different folks. Seems to be the same for atheism.

I wonder if the same people who need intellectual or emotional arguments need them for both?
Has your wife seen any emotional arguments for atheism?