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Moral standards have reversed, thuggish behaviour is now socially acceptable even desirable but being a polite, quiet and single white man is frowned upon or viewed with suspicion. Quiet and polite white males suffer intimidation and barely-contained violence from the local community who need an easy target to scapegoat.

Acting thuggish is now considered normal and thugs are becoming pillars of the community and tailoring a society to suit their needs and the needs of others like themselves who they favour. Thugs bully their way into the heart of local communities and then select other thugs for key positions within said communities through nepotism.

Society needs thugs and thuggish behaviour is often sanctioned but polite and quiet white males on the other hand have no utility and are useless to society in general. Being a polite and quiet white male is now a serious disadvantage but being an aggressive thug whose sole purpose is to overpopulate society with their own bastard-feral offspring has merit or is seen as enriching.

The fertility of thugs has accelerated while the fertility of polite and quiet white males has fallen below replacement levels. Thugs can propagate themselves whenever they want as they always have a female counterpart or female patron waiting to be fertilized. Between periods in gaol thugs are able to multiply tenfold leading to the proliferation of a new thuggish generation, thus perpetuating the cycle of thuggery.

Polite and quiet white males are particularly targeted by the feral progeny of thugs. Thugs weaponize their children against anyone they take an irrational dislike toward (typically polite and quiet white males) as they know their victims will be defenceless.

If quiet and polite white males do attempt to defend themselves against the children of thugs, they are murdered by the parents. In this way thugs use their children as conduits for their own aggression and usually the offspring are just as aggressive, if not more so then the parents. Children get away with murder now, they literally get away with murder!

Thugs and their equally thuggish offspring are allowed to act with impunity but the actions of quiet and polite white males are under constant surveillance. Intelligent thugs will endeavour to divert attention away from their own reprehensible actions and onto polite and quiet males. Indeed thugs will go to any length to orchestrate antipathy and hostility toward quiet white males even if it means defamation with false allegations.

Quiet and polite white males are now the last and only acceptable target in modern society as there are no special laws protecting them unlike other vulnerable social groups and they are useful scapegoats to blame for any number of social ills.

In the United Kingdom it is a fact that that many from an older long gone, genteel and refined generation remained confirmed bachelors and spinsters their entire lives so were not replenished, regrettably. The lower orders in society however continued to swell their ranks and also entered into dubious symbiotic relationships with naturalized racial outsiders. Lots of middle and upper class white women have also done this, such is their infatuation with Afro-Caribbean and Jamaican males.

Polite is not the same as nice or kind. Very frequently, mean and cruel people hide behind a shield of "politeness", and almost always people who are also weak of will or body but who wish to be cruel are forced to be polite -- and, dare I say, quiet.

Women don't generally like mean and cruel people, nor those weak of will. This isn't a sex or gender thing: nobody wants a mate like that.

The situation with incels is often a chicken-and-egg one. Do they become bitter, cruel, racist misogynists because or rejection, or have they been that way which is why they have always been rejected? It might be a little of both as some kind of feedback loop.

Look inward and fix yourself. The victim complex has to go, take accountability. And stop being a dogmatist.
You'll find a girlfriend in no time if you step out of this mentality and set of harmful belief systems (they're not just harmful to everybody else, they're harmful to you too). It's something incels don't like to hear, but the only thing that makes a person un-F-able is a toxic mindset. No matter how physically unattractive you are there's somebody else on par (if you're a 3, you can find another 3), but a shitty mindset can put you in the negative.

brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:10 pm Women don't generally like mean and cruel people, nor those weak of will. This isn't a sex or gender thing: nobody wants a mate like that.

I've observed women forming relationships with men who I could only describe as thugs on numerous occasions. Humans are not very different from other mammalian species in that females will alway have a host of potential male suitors vying for their attention and invariably the most aggressive male succeeds. Women will also strategize so a less aggressive financially solvent man will play a surrogate paternal figure for the absent deadbeat thug who impregnated her.

brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:10 pmThe situation with incels is often a chicken-and-egg one. Do they become bitter, cruel, racist misogynists because or rejection, or have they been that way which is why they have always been rejected? It might be a little of both as some kind of feedback loop..

Well speaking just for myself, my extremism only become more pronounced after a lifetime of being ignored and ridiculed by women and the thuggish men they bestow offspring to.

Kwashiorkor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:46 am Well speaking just for myself, my extremism only become more pronounced after a lifetime of being ignored and ridiculed by women and the thuggish men they bestow offspring to.

Real question: How do you approach women?
This is something people fail to consider: Maybe YOU yourself are the problem, and not the people around you. Maybe it isn't that everyone else is an asshole, maybe YOU'RE the asshole. Maybe these women reject you not because of any fault of their own, maybe YOU did something that prompted them to not want to date you. That, or maybe you just have very bad hygiene. If you insist on eating onions for breakfast, brush your teeth (especially your tongue, since that's where all the bad breath comes from. Do you notice a coat of white shit on your tongue?), use deoderant (preferably one not tested on animals), shave, comb and gel your hair if you have any, and shower with SOAP, not just water.

You should try emulating Patrick Bateman's morning routine, he's great at attracting women (just don't kill any of them, you can leave that part out).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjKNbfA64EE

When you do approach women, don't bullshit them, be honest with them and tell them you're interested. Don't go the George Costanza route and make up things about yourself to seem more impressive, they'll find out eventually. If you're unemployed and live with your parents, say so. They will respect your honesty (might not guarantee a date, but you shouldn't ever lie about yourself).

However, before you decide to get into a relationship, you have to work on yourself first, which will involve getting out of the NEET lifestyle. Try to make the best possible version of yourself. As I said before, go to the gym, eat healthier, lose weight, work on your hygiene, go to trade school to get a job, give some of the money you give to effective charities (and do charitable stuff in general when you can) and develop hobbies and interests. Hobbies are pretty important, to show you have a life outside of work, and to help build character. You'll not only be bettering yourself and your appeal towards women, but also improving your psychology by giving yourself purpose. I could go on but I think you get my point.

I would also suggest leaving the Incel/MGTOW crowd, and try being around people with more positive and socially progressive attitudes to influence you.

I am glad this guy Kwashiorkor is gone after he came here, since I Iast came here to post at this forum site. I could not put up with someone's violent racism that would promote and endorse violence and death to any others, though they do nothing. I would not know how to speak to him. And the idea that he is polite and quiet, which I think I am, is ridiculous, when he is not nice or kind. And being white which he relates to this is not even a substantive thing. There is no definitive group of people of common origin who are the white people excluding others. He just was showing racist perspective. It is not needed where we want to communicate vegan values.

It doesn´t make the forum look good that these threads still appear in the list of threads. Easy to imagine someone taking a quick glance at the forum and then deciding it`s not for them...who could have been a good member. These threads could stick around in the list for months given that this isn´t a very frequented forum...

Not sure what the solution is - maybe edit thread title to say "Poster banned" and perhaps remove the title of the two most offensively titled threads so you don´t see it until you click on the thread...perhaps not total deletion of the threads.

Jamie in Chile wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:01 pm It doesn´t make the forum look good that these threads still appear in the list of threads. Easy to imagine someone taking a quick glance at the forum and then deciding it`s not for them...who could have been a good member. These threads could stick around in the list for months given that this isn´t a very frequented forum...

Not sure what the solution is - maybe edit thread title to say "Poster banned" and perhaps remove the title of the two most offensively titled threads so you don´t see it until you click on the thread...perhaps not total deletion of the threads.

I'm thinking of hiding the threads for the time being, I'm talking it over with @brimstoneSalad.