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[Stauds2525]

The days between perfect games 3969 days. 63*63. Felix Hernandez then Domingo German. What does this have to do with being Vegan? Why did I share this? Because it proves a higher power to me based on my personal life experiences. Free will or Destiny? I personally do not believe in Free Will and believe eternity is simulated.

[brimstoneSalad]

While numerology has been broadly debunked (it is not strange coincidences exist, it would be strange NOT to find coincidences because coincidences are statistically inevitable in a large enough data set), if this belief gives you inspiration to live a better life and not harm animals I guess I'm happy to hear it works for you. I can also tell you that there are very strong reasons to believe the universe is not a simulation (in any practical meaning of the word), but that's rather a very complicated issue and of course ad hoc claims can always circumvent every problem as its pointed out.
Anyhow, welcome to the forum.

[Stauds2525]

If there is a higher power I am certain it does not want us killing animals. I find it hard to believe a higher power could be real but I wore 63 in college one of my passwords had 6363 in the password. Then what explains when people have dreams of future events and they come true?? Because i have had multiple? And many other people have had prophetic dreams. Thats my point behind either everything is random or nothing is random. It is arrogant to say something has been debunked when you have no real proof either way. You can always say coincidence…. Nothing will stop you.

[Red]

If there is a higher power I am certain it does not want us killing animals. I find it hard to believe a higher power could be real but I wore 63 in college one of my passwords had 6363 in the password.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_tr ... ge_numbers
Out of the millions of university students that have worn numbers on their clothes over the past decade and a half, it would be pretty weird if at least a couple of them didn't have their respective number in the password they had. But your case isn't a very interesting coincidence either, since the password has 6363, not just 63.

Even then, that leaves 99% of people wearing numbers and college passwords with differing numbers. Think of all the times in your life of coincidences could've occurred but didn't; You probably can't think of many times because coincidences like these are so incredibly arbitrary and trivial.

Then what explains when people have dreams of future events and they come true?? Because i have had multiple? And many other people have had prophetic dreams.

Can you prove that dreams have this predictive power? Given that dreams are either immediately forgotten upon waking (since everyone dreams every night, most of us just have poor dream recall) or are meaningless nonsense, it's easy to cherry pick a handful of the ones that you remember and arbitrarily apply it to any situation, when it still can be interpreted in hundred of ways (and since they have no rational or scientific basis, every interpretation of dreams predicting the future has equal merit).

Another problem with this is that literally anyone can come out and say that their dreams foretold of a prophecy. 95% of them will end up not happening, but since hundreds of thousands of people do it, it isn't too baffling that 5% hit the mark in some form or another (of course, but sheer... coincidence). The ones who are wrong get swept to the wayside, and the ones who were lucky enough to guess right get a moment of attention, after everyone ignores all their other failed predictions. 5% is probably being generous too.

Can you give us an example of a dream of yours that "came true?"

Thats my point behind either everything is random or nothing is random.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
Things like quantum fluctuations are random, chemical reactions are not. We have examples of both.

It is arrogant to say something has been debunked when you have no real proof either way. You can always say coincidence…. Nothing will stop you.

It's sort of on you to prove that these coincidences are indicative of some higher power (or whatever supernatural thing it is you're asserting). Occam's Razor favors the conclusion that these happenstances are mere coincidences and are not worthy of further investigation or analysis.

As to your charge that there's no proof numerology hasn't been debunked, it has. Numerology thrives off of human biases and wishful thinking and exploits the human tendency to find patterns where there aren't any.

[Stauds2525]

You use a lot of words yet you proved nothing. Nothing you said proved or disproved anything.
“Occam's Razor favors the conclusion that these happenstances are mere coincidences and are not worthy of further investigation or analysis.”
Thank you for saying exactly what i knew you were gonna say. Coincidence. Right? Have a blessed day.

[Red]

You use a lot of words yet you proved nothing. Nothing you said proved or disproved anything.

Given that you didn't prove anything either, there was no obligation for me to prove anything really. You're the one claiming that these coincidences are indicative of something, so the burden of proof is yours. What we're saying is that we see no good reason to believe that, since coincidences are things that are expected to happen in large enough sample sizes, and we're asking how you know these coincidences mean anything at all. We didn't prove anything because there's nothing for us to prove, really.

There are many things that might appear to be coincidences that actually aren't when you analyze them, but you haven't done that.

“Occam's Razor favors the conclusion that these happenstances are mere coincidences and are not worthy of further investigation or analysis.”
Thank you for saying exactly what i knew you were gonna say. Coincidence. Right?

Unlikely, since this you've probably posited this claim to other people and have seen that line a few times already (though I highly doubt you've seen it phrased in that exact way). In that case, it seems as though you're just posting this stuff for attention and aren't bothering to listen to what people are saying.

I'm going to assume that you're just trolling here, and while that isn't necessarily a bannable offense, refusing to address the claims of others and just dismissing arguments made against you certainly is.

This is a discussion forum. Please come here willing to discuss. This isn't a place to lecture, and then refuse to address others' rational arguments or even answer others' questions. Discussion is founded upon logic, if you don't accept basic logic as valid, there's really nothing for you to do here except lecture, and this isn't the place for it. Again: This is a discussion forum.

[Stauds2525]

“ and while that isn't necessarily a bannable offense, refusing to address the claims of others and just dismissing arguments made against you certainly is.”
Do you understand philosophy has no right or wrong answers. So if your gonna come at me and tell me im wrong right from the start you are an idiot. go ahead and ban me you baby. You are allowed to believe something and also believe you may not be right… but you can certainly still believe it…

[Red]

Do you understand philosophy has no right or wrong answers.

How do you know?

[brimstoneSalad]

Then what explains when people have dreams of future events and they come true??

There are nearly eight billion people on Earth, and about five billion adults, each of whom have several dreams (3 to 7 apparently, so maybe averaging 5) every night.
In any given year, that's 5 billion * 5 * 365 = over nine trillion.

And that's an under-estimate, because obviously teenagers can dream too and remember/recount them.

If there were not many many people with many accidentally prophetic dreams constantly then THAT would be magic.
I know it seems strange coming from your perspective being one of the people who have had prophetic dreams, but that's true of everybody who has them. Those people exist, and they exist with the frequency we'd expect if it's "random".

But FYI, things are not just random. Our conscious and unconscious expectations can also shape dreams. Some people may have intuitions about the future that beat guessing based on their knowledge of the circumstances. There are also self-fulfilling prophecies, and it's well known that memory is malleable, and that's not even getting started on interpretation of dreams which can be post hoc.

[Stauds2525]

A philosophical question like free will or destiny… You can make arguments for both sides… it is open ended… therefore if you try and tell someone they are wrong for believing in destiny… you are going against what philosophical debates are all about…. “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing” Socrates.