Philosophical Vegan Forum

Stauds2525 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:28 pm A philosophical question like free will or destiny… You can make arguments for both sides… it is open ended…

There are (at least) two sides to every open-ended issue, that doesn't mean that have equal merit. You could make arguments for the Earth being flat, too.

Philosophy as a field is dedicated to figuring out the truth; It's based on logic and reason, as all real philosophical ideas are, but the issue is since any idea that deals with the abstract or the human condition is passed as philosophy, it's garnered a reputation for being a nebulous, superfluous field where anything goes. It's a slow battle attempting to reclaim it

I think you're confusing philosophy with metaphysics (which is a branch of philosophy). Note that science itself is a branch of philosophy, back in the day physicists were even referred to as "natural philosophers" though physics is not a field where everything has two equally plausible solutions.

Stauds2525 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:28 pmtherefore if you try and tell someone they are wrong for believing in destiny… you are going against what philosophical debates are all about….

The idea of "destiny" is more of an empirical claim than a general philosophical one, though going by your logic the person asserting that he or she is right for believing in destiny also goes against what philosophical debates are about.

Stauds2525 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:28 pm“The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing” Socrates.

Socrates wasn't being literal when he said that (although the attribution of the quote to him is disputed, it's still a strong truism), what is meant by it is to maintain intellectual honesty and humility, and understanding how little you know compared to the vast amount of knowledge in the universe.

So many words and once again you said nothing. Sometimes less is more.

My belief is simple. I am what I am and I am going to do what I am destined to do. I had no choice in being born. I just was. Everything I do is based of what happened moments ago. I am always going to have a choice but my choice is what I am. I am typing this because I am destined 2. Im going to drink water soon because I am thirsty. I am destined to drink the water because of my circumstance. Every choice every single person makes is because they choose 2 but why did they pick eating an apple vs eating grapes for dinner? It is what it is. I picked grapes tonight because i felt like it but it was not my choice it was my destiny.

Heres a recent book on a more scientific explanation if you ever find the time….. Determined by Robert Sapolsky….